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Led_Zep wrote:http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.0227
All Six Planets Known to Orbit Kepler-11 Have Low Densities![]()
That's gross, planets c, e, f are more sort of mini-Saturn that mini-Neptune. Maybe the system had very little metals available during planets formation - but the host star, though old, seems to be of solar-like metallicity.
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Some studies indicate that fluffy super earths are likely H2O free, just surrounded by an atmosphere of H/He:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.7810
http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.7810

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The Markov Chain Monte Carlo analysis of the
RV data yields a mass estimate for the d planet of 9.50+6.23
−8.17M⊕
(Geoff Marcy 2012, private communication
http://authors.library.caltech.edu/36783/1/0004-637X_762_2_129.pdf
RV data yields a mass estimate for the d planet of 9.50+6.23
−8.17M⊕
(Geoff Marcy 2012, private communication
http://authors.library.caltech.edu/36783/1/0004-637X_762_2_129.pdf

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Another study of the radius distribution of the Kepler planets...
The Radius Distribution of Small Planets Around Cool Stars
http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.3013
For stars with Teff<4000 K, the most common planet size appears to be 1 – 1.5 R⊕. There also appears to be an excess of planets at 2 – 2.5 R⊕, perhaps indicating a population of planets with low-density (H/He) atmospheres.
The Radius Distribution of Small Planets Around Cool Stars
http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.3013
For stars with Teff<4000 K, the most common planet size appears to be 1 – 1.5 R⊕. There also appears to be an excess of planets at 2 – 2.5 R⊕, perhaps indicating a population of planets with low-density (H/He) atmospheres.
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What density is low density?? up to 2.0 g/cm3 ? Intermediate density 2.0-4.0 g/cm3 ? high over 4 ?

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It's a qualitative description not a quantitative one.
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Mission Update
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http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.rss.spacewire.html?pid=43725
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Gravitational lensing in a WD+dM binary
http://spaceref.com/astronomy/gravity-bending-find-leads-to-kepler-meeting-einstein.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.1165
http://spaceref.com/astronomy/gravity-bending-find-leads-to-kepler-meeting-einstein.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.1165
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I have a question.
Is Kepler-37 a cold subdwarf? Look at Groombridge 1830 and μ Cas A, both are sdG type stars, and compare them to Kepler-37:
Groombridge 1830
Mass: 0.661 Ms
Radius: 0.681 Rs
Temperature: 4759 K
Metallicity: -1.33
μ Cas A
Mass: 0.74 Ms
Radius: 0.791 Rs
Temperature: 5332 K
Metallicity: -0.84
Kepler-37
Mass: 0.803 Ms
Radius: 0.770 Rs
Temperature: 5417 K
Metallicity: -0.32
Is Kepler-37 a cold subdwarf? Look at Groombridge 1830 and μ Cas A, both are sdG type stars, and compare them to Kepler-37:
Groombridge 1830
Mass: 0.661 Ms
Radius: 0.681 Rs
Temperature: 4759 K
Metallicity: -1.33
μ Cas A
Mass: 0.74 Ms
Radius: 0.791 Rs
Temperature: 5332 K
Metallicity: -0.84
Kepler-37
Mass: 0.803 Ms
Radius: 0.770 Rs
Temperature: 5417 K
Metallicity: -0.32
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In short, no. I believe the upper cutoff for subdwarfs is at between Fe/H -0.6 and -0.7 or so, and a M/H of -0.3 is typical for a field star (particularly a thick disk star).
If you're looking for a better-studied analogue, HD 4208 is similar but a bit hotter:
M☉: 0.827
Teff (K): 5599 ± 19 K
[Fe/H] (dex): -0.28 ± 0.01 dex
While HD 63765 has a similar effective temperature, but is less metal-poor:
M☉: 0.828
Teff (K): 5432 ± 19
[Fe/H] (dex): -0.16 ± 0.01
(Data from Sousa et al. 2008)
I'd wager that the discrepancies is due to the stellar models used.
If you're looking for a better-studied analogue, HD 4208 is similar but a bit hotter:
M☉: 0.827
Teff (K): 5599 ± 19 K
[Fe/H] (dex): -0.28 ± 0.01 dex
While HD 63765 has a similar effective temperature, but is less metal-poor:
M☉: 0.828
Teff (K): 5432 ± 19
[Fe/H] (dex): -0.16 ± 0.01
(Data from Sousa et al. 2008)
I'd wager that the discrepancies is due to the stellar models used.
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Thanks you!

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Worth pointing out here: Fe/H ratings for stars vary widely. In different catalogs I have seen differences of 50% or more for the same star.
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Isn't subdwarf status more about location on the H-R diagram than the metallicity?
I.e. low metallicity is what causes a star to be a subdwarf, but subdwarf status itself is determined by the low luminosity?
I.e. low metallicity is what causes a star to be a subdwarf, but subdwarf status itself is determined by the low luminosity?
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Lazarus wrote:Isn't subdwarf status more about location on the H-R diagram than the metallicity?
I.e. low metallicity is what causes a star to be a subdwarf, but subdwarf status itself is determined by the low luminosity?
Yes, but Kepler Kepler-37 is (in my eyes) smaller than a normal GV (this is why i compare it to other known subwarves). In the HR diagram, this star would be a little "under" the cuvre of V stars, but may be not enough to be called a subdwarf.

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ThinkerX wrote:Worth pointing out here: Fe/H ratings for stars vary widely. In different catalogs I have seen differences of 50% or more for the same star.
What catalogues are you looking at? Photometric metallicities tend to be… weird, but spectroscopic metallicities are generally accurate to their errors (generally less than ± 0.05 dex for high S/N spectra). Spectroscopic values earlier than the 90s or so are also generally inaccurate, because most spectrometers… sucked back then.
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