Upsilon Andromedae e?

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Lazarus on Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:56 pm

I'm somewhat surprised this one hasn't been posted here yet...

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Edasich on Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:18 am

Always Pulkovo observers once in 2004 inferred again the existence of a substellar object at 61 Cygni A. Period 6.9 years (I think), 14 Jupiter masses and e=0.4.

I don't know if trustworthy but thanks for the information Wink

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:45 pm

Lazarus wrote:I'm somewhat surprised this one hasn't been posted here yet...
Maybe this is the proposed planet "outtathere."

(quick explanation: Ups And's planets got the unofficial names of Dinky, Twopiter, and Fourpiter, with a proposed ejected planet "outtathere" to explain d's eccentricity)

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Lazarus on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:50 pm

Sirius_Alpha wrote:(quick explanation: Ups And's planets got the unofficial names of Dinky, Twopiter, and Fourpiter, with a proposed ejected planet "outtathere" to explain d's eccentricity)

Don't know about anyone else here, but I never liked those names...

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:52 pm

Eh, I thought they were cute but unnecessary.

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Edasich on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:43 pm

I would have such cool names for those planets, but let's not turn offtopic Laughing

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Lazarus on Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:31 pm

Can't help but wonder if the delay in the astrometric analysis of Upsilon Andromedae is due to trying to characterise the fourth planet...

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:13 pm

That would make sense. Perhaps d isn't actually inclined 30° to the rest of the system after all.

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Stalker on Sat Mar 06, 2010 3:07 pm

Why "Dinky"???

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Lazarus on Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:22 pm

Because despite being a huge Jupiter-class planet, it is less massive than the other two. Of course the names for "c" and "d" will turn out to be even sillier if 1/sin(i) is significantly larger than 1...

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:30 pm

Indeed. Perhaps b and c should be called "twoseineyepiter" and "fourseineyepiter", respectively. Dinky may retain its name ; ).

(I've split the relevant discussion about Ups And e to a new thread)

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Edasich on Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:13 pm

Excuse me, I'm not sure: has it been discovered and awaiting for publication or is it only putative? Rolling Eyes

About name, no please. Dinky as official name would be ludicrous. Funny nickname, uhm, so so...though I don't get the sense.

Classical mythology fits well with relevant planetary systems

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:16 pm

The planet hasn't been ruled out, but it hasn't been confirmed either. It's very unconstrained. According to the abstract, only a lower limit on the orbital period could be placed.

They also mention the need for further monitoring to ensure the signature is indeed planetary in nature.

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Edasich on Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:20 pm

But it should not be included in discoveries yet. Am I too rigid?

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Re: Upsilon Andromedae e?

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:37 am

Nah you're right. Not a discovery yet.

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