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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Borislav on Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:11 pm

necessary more information about the scale problem....

Now I would be happy at only half of the photometry of the plan (50 000 stars), the main thing that the accuracy was within 20 ppm as promised and began observing since Christmas

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by TheoA on Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:17 pm

Sirius,

The person to contact would be David Koch. He's the one in charge of the instrumentation. I'll try him as well.

I think the people on this forum will be happy with Jupiters, the general public not so much.

Most people are of the view that Kepler should produce 50-100 earth like planets. They have been force fed this by the media and the science team. What happens when they are told this is not so. They have an attention span of 5 minutes.

There is a reason that all those missions you mentioned are dead with no tears shed. It is exactly due to C@%P like this. Keep us involved or your else... is their attitude.

We wouldn't have to speculate and depend on these info leaks if the science team would take 10 minutes to clarify the situation properly. Something they have known about for months if not years. How come they never mentioned this in all the previous contacts forum members have had with them?

The public is willing to tolerate some spectacular failures if there is full disclosure.


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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:19 pm

Indeed, Mr. Koch is the one who I e-mailed. I hope he isn't too busy. And yeah, the public's view is worrying. They were promised Earths, from a variety of sources.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by TheoA on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:03 pm

Borislav,

Again agree.

Original design = 1.4x10 -5 = 14 parts per million.

Hubble = 6x10 -6 = 6 parts per million

present IMO = 120 parts per million.

Needed for Earth = 80 parts per million

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:06 pm

So HST can detect a transiting Earth? I didn't expect that.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Edasich on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:10 pm

Sorry, I could sound naive, but is it possible to rename and shift this discussion in Detection Methods and Projects.

I mean, this thread has taken 10 pages for discussion about Kepler results, but so far I've heard nothing Kepler has detected or discovered.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:11 pm

Yeah, fair enough. Give me a sec while I round up the posts.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Lazarus on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:12 pm

Of course getting enough time on HST for doing that kind of detection is another matter Wink

Putting my moderator hat on here, remember if you are contacting the Kepler team to make sure you have permission to quote them before posting quotes from private emails.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Edasich on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:16 pm

Sirius_Alpha wrote:Yeah, fair enough. Give me a sec while I round up the posts.


Indeed Corot results has taken a similar number of thread pages but discusses about detections.

So far Kepler seems having collected data and working not so good too.

Thank you for the attention

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by TheoA on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:17 pm

Also HST field of view much smaller

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:20 pm

Edasich wrote:Thank you for the attention

Any time =)

Edit:
Lazarus wrote:Putting my moderator hat on here, remember if you are contacting the
Kepler team to make sure you have permission to quote them before
posting quotes from private emails.
I second that.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Borislav on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:53 pm

If not hard to ask a question William Borucki directly in the comments?

http://blogs.discovery.com/space_disco/2009/10/keplers-exoplanet-hunt-on-hold-until-2011.html
I can not, bad English.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:55 pm

Borislav, at least two of the people on this forum have already attempted contact with the Kepler team. I am sure we will hear something soon.

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Lazarus on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:11 pm

I have received email back from the Kepler team, I'm going to request quoting permissions, but the short story is that the doom-and-gloom scenarios are incorrect. Things are not nearly as bad as the news articles and posts upthread are making out.

More on this to come later...

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Re: Kepler Channel Noise Problem

Post by Sirius_Alpha on Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:14 pm

Thanks, really good to hear and I look forward to hearing more.

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